Hi Everyone, As I told earlier I was trying to develop a SKILL script for doing this task, I could able to develop the main functionality of the task. that I am sharing here. I hope this will save a lot of time during our design. Regards Prasanth K V community.cadence.com/.../asp.zip

Hi! I'd like to use a post-install trigger to automatically resize the hierarchy window upon opening config views. I tried using the following in my .cdsinit: deRegUserTtriggers("config" nil nil 'my_resizing_procedure) but this doesn't work (the procedure itself seems working fine when called explicitly). What can be going wrong? Thanks and regards, Jorge.

Hi Jorge, Hmmmh...without seeing your trigger function code I can just guess. Do you see any errors in the CIW? Have you implemented your trigger function in a way that it expects one argument? Is the hierarchy window already open when the trigger is called? Max

Hi Max! No errors appear in the CIW, and the function works fine when called explicitly (with an open hierarchy editor as the active window): procedure( my_resizing_procedure(@optional args) let((WindowID) WindowID = hiGetCurrentWindow() when(member(hiGetAppType(WindowID) '("Cadence Hierarchy Editor")) hiResizeWindow(WindowID list(0:34 2560:1373)); hiFlush() ) ) )

I have a ROD object, metal filled with contacts. I need to take this ROD object and ouch holes, evenly spaced through the middle of this shape. The hole should remove the metal, and any contacts whcih overlap the hole. I tried following this solution, but it will not remove the contacts as desired. https://community.cadence.com/cadence_technology_forums/f/custom-ic-skill/37170/how-to-cut-an-array-of-rectangles-in-a-big-rectangle Shane.

I often stare at schematics for hours looking for the cause or solution to some very subtle issue and it is helpful to see some simulation annotations in the process. My issue is that turning on annotations produces an utterly overwhelming amount of clutter (including vast amounts of overlapping text and redundant information) and it's just too much for my feeble brain to take in while I'm keeping my concentration focused on the schematic itself. I know you can turn on and off "clusters" of information, but in my entire career I've *never* needed/wanted to see the full spread of voltages or parameters for *every* *single* component in my schematic. For node voltages, I'd be delighted if only the net labels I placed on wires/nodes that I cared about lit up with their voltages beside them. Can this be done? Also, is there a way to create something like a note that I can place anywhere on the schematic whose contents can evaluate to stuff based on simulation results e.g. the current temperature and sum of the drain currents of mn1, mn2?

OK, time for me to eat some humble pie :-/. It turns out there is considerable control available over what annotations can/can't be displayed (via the View -> Annotations -> Setup... menu). I formally withdraw the first paragraph of my post and accuse myself of ignorance and violating the law of RTFM (just beating Andrew to the punch here). Sorry about that :-(. That being said, I really wouldn't mind knowing if there are viable answers to the thoughts in my 2nd paragraph...

It's more of a case of NQGTPOTMY than RTFM (Not Quite Got To That Part Of The Manual Yet) ;-) Unfortunately the second part can't be done currently. Interestingly I was only discussing this in a meeting a week or so back, but it's the kind of thing I'd like to see in the future - control of annotation of other quantities (I'd like to add things like noise contributions, distortion contributions, the value of the 2nd harmonic from a PSS result etc). CCR 1096295 is for the harmonic balance idea, CCR 631948 for annotating noise contributors (also talks about the more general request). So might be worth contacting customer support and asking for a duplicate to one or other of these... Regards, Andrew

Anyone having 4 layer .brd file with diffencial pair and usb lines and ethernet lines routing sample board please share me my email id: chaitra.9007@gmail.com, I am new of rf design, I want to learn so please share me

Hey all, I've been tasked with replacing a 30 pin connector on our boards, with a new one after the old one was declared obsolete. I've updated the schematic by altering the old connector and saving/update/replace cache. When I try to create the netlist to bring the changes to pcd editor, I am met with an error. ORCAP-32007 or ORCAP-32006 I am completely new to PCB design, so I may have made a fatal error early on that's preventing me from doing this? Is there an easy way to replace components? I'd like to keep all of the same connections to the same pins, and just replace the symbol/footprint. cpu time 0:01:02 elapsed time 0:00:00 INFO(ORCAP-32005): *** Done *** INFO(ORCAP-32002): Netlisting the design INFO(ORCAP-32004): Design Name: C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\TCC_0458-0000_REV2_SCH_14-12-02C.DSN Netlist Directory: C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro Configuration File: C:\Cadence\SPB_17.2\tools/capture/allegro.cfg Spawning... "C:\Cadence\SPB_17.2\tools\bin\pstswp.exe" -pst -d "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\TCC_0458-0000_REV2_SCH_14-12-02C.DSN" -n "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro" -c "C:\Cadence\SPB_17.2\tools/capture/allegro.cfg" -v 3 -l 31 -s "" -j "PCB Footprint" -hpath "HPathForCollision" -lite #1 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "RP3.16" ignored for RP3: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg05: DDR3_Memory (14.60, 5.30). Connecting pin to net "VTT_DDR". #2 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U1.D14" ignored for U1: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg02: AM335X Section 1 of 3 (6.30, 4.10). Connecting pin to net "PMIC_INT1_GPIO". #3 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.A2" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640936". #4 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.A4" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640939". #5 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.A5" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640942". #6 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.A6" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640945". #7 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_ connect" property on Pin "U25.B1" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640948". #8 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.B3" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640951". #9 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.B4" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640954". #10 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.B5" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640957". #11 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.B6" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (0.00, 0.00). Connecting pin to net "N28640960". #12 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U2.3" ignored for U2: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg02: AM335X Section 1 of 3 (10.40, 12.80). Connecting pin to net "RTC_PORZ". #13 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "Y4.2" ignored for Y4: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (13.90, 5.30). Connecting pin to net "DGND". #14 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U1.V2" ignored for U1: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg03: AM335X Section 2 of 3 (4.20, 3.50). Connecting pin to net "NSTATUS". #15 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U18.25" ignored for U18: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg09: RGMII1 (5.90, 3.50). Connecting pin to net "CLK_25M". #16 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U1.R1" ignored for U1: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg03: AM335X Section 2 of 3 (4.20, 3.50). Connecting pin to net "AM335X_READY1". #17 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U1.V4" ignored for U1: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg03: AM335X Section 2 of 3 (4.20, 3.50). Connecting pin to net "AM335X_READY2". #18 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "Y4.4" ignored for Y4: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg13:FPGA_Power (13.90, 5.30). Connecting pin to net "V3_3D". #19 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U18.6" ignored for U18: TMDS SK3358-1V2A, Pg09: RGMII1 (5.90, 3.50). Connecting pin to net "N28109108". #20 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U25.C1" ignored for U25: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg12:FPGA_Interface (11.90, 2.70). Connecting pin to net "FPGA_ADSO". #21 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U1.A15" ignored for U1: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg02: AM335X Section 1 of 3 (6.30, 4.10). Connecting pin to net "AM335X_FPGA_CONFIG_DONE". #22 WARNING(ORCAP-36038): "No_connect" property on Pin "U1.B12" ignored for U1: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg03: AM335X Section 2 of 3 (4.20, 3.50). Connecting pin to net "AM335X_FPGA_NCONFIG". WARNING(ORCAP-40304): Could not export models as the models used in the design C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\TCC_0458-0000_REV2_SCH_14-12-02C.DSN are not present in the search path. Check if the model libraries are configured.#23 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "18PFCAPACITOR50V5%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_18PF, 50V" is renamed to "18PFCAPACITOR50V5%0402_SM-7351-". #24 WARNING(ORCAP -36006): Part Name "1UFC APACITOR10V10%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_1UF" is renamed to "1UFCAPACITOR10V10%0402_SM-7351-". #25 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.1UFCAPACITOR16V10%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_0.1UF" is renamed to "0.1UFCAPACITOR16V10%0402_SM-735". #26 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10UFCAPACITOR16V10%0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_10UF" is renamed to "10UFCAPACITOR16V10%0805_SM-7351". #27 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "4.7UFCAPACITOR16V10%0603_SM-7351-CAP-0603_4.7UF" is renamed to "4.7UFCAPACITOR16V10%0603_SM-735". #28 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.01UFCAPACITOR16V10%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_0.01UF" is renamed to "0.01UFCAPACITOR16V10%0402_SM-73". #29 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.1UFCAPACITOR6.3V10%0201_SMD0603_0.1UF, 6.3V" is renamed to "0.1UFCAPACITOR6.3V10%0201_SMD06". #30 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UFCAPACITOR10V20%SMD0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_2.2UF, 10V" is renamed to "2.2UFCAPACITOR10V20%SMD0402_SM-". #31 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_22NF" is renamed to "2.2UF16V10%SMD080 5_SM-7351-CAP-". #32 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "100UFCAPACITOR16V20%ELECTROPOLY_EDK107M063A9PAA_DNP" is renamed to "100UFCAPACITOR16V20%ELECTROPOLY". #33 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.1UFCAPACITOR6.3V10%0201_SMD0805_0.1UF, 100V" is renamed to "0.1UFCAPACITOR6.3V10%0201_SMD08". #34 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10UFCAPACITOR16V10%0805_EDK106M063A9GAA_10UF, 63V" is renamed to "10UFCAPACITOR16V10%0805_EDK106M". #35 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "47UFCAPACITOR16V20%1206_SM-7351-CAP-1206_1.0UF" is renamed to "47UFCAPACITOR16V20%1206_SM-7351". #36 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "100UFCAPACITOR16V20%ELECTROPOLY_SM-7351-CAP-UE_150UF, 8V" is renamed to "100UFCAPACITOR16V20%ELECTROPO_1". #37 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.001UFCAPACITOR50V5%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_8.2NF" is renamed to "0.001UFCAPACITOR50V5%0402_SM-73". #38 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_100NF" is renamed to "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CA_1". #39 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UF16V10 %SMD0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_330PF" is renamed to "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CA_2". #40 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_820PF" is renamed to "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CA_3". #41 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_390PF" is renamed to "2.2UF16V10%SMD0805_SM-7351-CA_4". #42 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10UFCAPACITOR16V10%0805_SM-7351-CAP-0805_1000P, 1KV" is renamed to "10UFCAPACITOR16V10%0805_SM-73_1". #43 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.1UFCAPACITOR50V10%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_0.1UF" is renamed to "0.1UFCAPACITOR50V10%0402_SM-735". #44 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "27PFCAPACITOR10V5%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_27PF" is renamed to "27PFCAPACITOR10V5%0402_SM-7351-". #45 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "470PFCAPACITOR25V10%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_DNI" is renamed to "470PFCAPACITOR25V10%0402_SM-735". #46 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.1UFCAPACITOR6.3V10%0201_SMD0201_0.1UF, 6.3V" is renamed to "0.1UFCAPACITOR6.3V10%0201_SMD02". #47 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "47UFCAPACITOR16V20%1206_SM-7351-CAP-0805_22UF, 10V" is renamed to "47UFCAPACITOR16V20%1206_SM-73_1". #48 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "22PFCAPACITOR50V10%SMD0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_22PF" is renamed to "22PFCAPACITOR50V10%SMD0402_SM-7". #49 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.001UFCAPACITOR50V5%0402_SM-7351-CAP-0402_0.001UF" is renamed to "0.001UFCAPACITOR50V5%0402_SM-_1". #50 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "DIODE_5ARECT_B520C-13-F_B520C-13-F" is renamed to "DIODE_5ARECT_B520C-13-F_B520C-1". #51 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "DIODE_5ARECT_B520C-13-F_B3100-13-F" is renamed to "DIODE_5ARECT_B520C-13-F_B3100-1". #52 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "DIODE_SMCJ7.0CA_SMCJ15CA_SMAJ54A" is renamed to "DIODE_SMCJ7.0CA_SMCJ15CA_SMAJ54". #53 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_7_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_7_SM-7351-IND-0805_150O". #54 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERRITEBEAD_3_HF70ACB201209_600MAFB10OHM" is renamed to "FERRITEBEAD_3_HF70ACB2012 09_600". #55 WARNING(ORCAP-360 06): Part Name "FERRITEBEAD_2_HF70ACB201209_600MAFB10OHM" is renamed to "FERRITEBEAD_2_HF70ACB201209_600". #56 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERRITEBEAD_1_1206_HI1206N101R-10" is renamed to "FERRITEBEAD_1_1206_HI1206N101R-". #57 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_8_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_8_SM-7351-IND-0805_150O". #58 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_9_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_9_SM-7351-IND-0805_150O". #59 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_10_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_10_SM-7351-IND-0805_150". #60 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_11_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_11_SM-7351-IND-0805_150". #61 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_12_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_12_SM-7351-IND-0805_150". #62 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "FERBEAD_180OHM200MA_SM-7351-IND-0805_150OHM800MA" is renamed to "FERBEAD_180OHM200MA_SM-7351-IND". #63 WARNING(ORCAP-3 6006): Part Name "CONN_MICROSD_8_SD-MICRO-SCHA5B0300_SCHA5B0200" is renamed to "CONN_MICROSD_8_SD-MICRO-SCHA5B0". #64 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "30 PIN CONNECTOR_0_30PINCONNECTOR_30PINCON" is renamed to "30 PIN CONNECTOR_0_30PINCONNECT". #65 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "HEADER10X2_CJTAG_HEADER10X2_CTI JTAG" is renamed to "HEADER10X2_CJTAG_HEADER10X2_CTI". #66 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to "GND#8" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package Header10x2_CJTAG , J2: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg06: SDMMC, EEPROM, JTAG (9.20, 10.30). #67 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to "GND#10" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package Header10x2_CJTAG , J2: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg06: SDMMC, EEPROM, JTAG (9.20, 10.30). #68 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to "GND#12" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package Header10x2_CJTAG , J2: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg06: SDMMC, EEPROM, JTAG (9.20, 10.30). #69 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to " GND#16" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package Header10x2_CJTAG , J2: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg06: SDMMC, EEPROM, JTAG (9.20, 10.30). #70 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to "GND#20" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package Header10x2_CJTAG , J2: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg06: SDMMC, EEPROM, JTAG (9.20, 10.30). #71 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UHINDUCTOR10%2_0.6ASMD_VLCF5020T_2.2UH" is renamed to "2.2UHINDUCTOR10%2_0.6ASMD_VLCF5". #72 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.2UHINDUCTOR10%2_1.6ASMD_VLCF5020T_2.2UH" is renamed to "2.2UHINDUCTOR10%2_1.6ASMD_VLCF5". #73 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "4.7UHINDUCTOR30%3_0.1ASMD_SMD_SLF7055T_33UH" is renamed to "4.7UHINDUCTOR30%3_0.1ASMD_SMD_S". #74 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "4.7UH30%0_1.9ASMD_MIPF2016_4.7UH" is renamed to "4.7UH30%0_1.9ASMD_MIPF2016_4.7U". #75 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "DLW5BTN501SQ2L_DLW5BTN501SQ2_DLW5BTN501SQ2L" is renamed to "DLW5BTN501SQ2L_DLW5BTN501SQ2_DL". #76 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Pa rt Name "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_10K" is renamed to "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351". #77 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "470KOHM1/16W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_470K" is renamed to "470KOHM1/16W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-R". #78 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_33.2K" is renamed to "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-73_1". #79 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "150OHM1/16W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_150" is renamed to "150OHM1/16W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RE". #80 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "4.75KOHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_4.75K, 1%" is renamed to "4.75KOHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-". #81 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "ZEROOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_0" is renamed to "ZEROOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-735". #82 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "100OHM1/16W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_100" is renamed to "100OHM1/16W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RE". #83 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "ZEROOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_DNI" is renamed to "ZEROOHMRESISTOR1/1 6W0402_SM-7_1". #84 WARNING( ORCAP-36006): Part Name "240OHMRESISTOR1/10W1%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_240, 1%" is renamed to "240OHMRESISTOR1/10W1%0402_SM-73". #85 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10KOHMRESISTOR1/10W1%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_10K, 1%" is renamed to "10KOHMRESISTOR1/10W1%0402_SM-73". #86 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "33OHMRESISTOR1/16W5%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_33" is renamed to "33OHMRESISTOR1/16W5%0402_SM-735". #87 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "100KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_100K" is renamed to "100KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-735". #88 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "4.7KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_4.7K" is renamed to "4.7KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-735". #89 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.24OHM0.25W1%SENSE0805_SM_RES_0805_KELV_0.24OHM1% SENSE" is renamed to "0.24OHM0.25W1%SENSE0805_SM_RES_". #90 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "22OHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_22" is renamed to "22OHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-735". #91 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "100KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-040 2_DNP" is renamed to "100KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7_1". #92 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_DNP" is renamed to "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-73_2". #93 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "ZEROOHMRESISTOR1/16W0603_SM-7351-RES-0603_0" is renamed to "ZEROOHMRESISTOR1/16W0603_SM-735". #94 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "2.37KOHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_2.37K" is renamed to "2.37KOHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-". #95 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_1K" is renamed to "1KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-". #96 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "22OHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_75" is renamed to "22OHMRESISTOR1/16W1%0402_SM-7_1". #97 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "33OHMRESISTOR1/16W5%0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_DNI" is renamed to "33OHMRESISTOR1/16W5%0402_SM-7_1". #98 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_DNI" is renamed to "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-73_3". #99 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part N ame "49.9OHM1/3W1%SMDMELF0102_SMD_MELF0102_49.9" is renamed to "49.9OHM1/3W1%SMDMELF0102_SMD_ME". #100 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-7351-RES-0805_20.5K, 1/8W" is renamed to "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-73". #101 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1MOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_1M" is renamed to "1MOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-". #102 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-7351-RES-0805_63.4K, 1/8W" is renamed to "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-_1". #103 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-7351-RES-0805_1.0K, 1/8W, 1.0%" is renamed to "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-_2". #104 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-7351-RES-0805_3.09K, 1/8W, 1.0%" is renamed to "1.2KOHMRESISTOR1/4W5%0805_SM-_3". #105 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "0.1OHM0.33W1%SENSE0805_SM_RES_0805_KELV_0.1OHM1% SENSE" is renamed to "0.1OHM0.33W1%SENSE0805_SM_RES_0". #106 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "1.5KOHMRESISTOR1/16W5%SM D0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_1.5K" is renamed to "1.5KOHMRESISTOR1/16W5%SMD0402_S". #107 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "220OHM1/10W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_220" is renamed to "220OHM1/10W1%SMD0402_SM-7351-RE". #108 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-7351-RES-0402_64.9K" is renamed to "10KOHMRESISTOR1/16W0402_SM-73_4". #109 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "33OHMX8_1/16W5%SMD_SM_RPAK_EXB-2HV_33X8" is renamed to "33OHMX8_1/16W5%SMD_SM_RPAK_EXB-". #110 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "SWITCH_PUSHBUTTONSMD_SW_B3SL-1022P_DNI" is renamed to "SWITCH_PUSHBUTTONSMD_SW_B3SL-10". #111 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "SWITCH_PUSHBUTTONSMD_SW_B3SL-1022P_B3SL" is renamed to "SWITCH_PUSHBUTTONSMD_SW_B3SL-_1". #112 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "TESTPOINT_SMD1MMCIRCLE_TP_SMD1MMCIRCLE_TP1MM" is renamed to "TESTPOINT_SMD1MMCIRCLE_TP_SMD1M". #113 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "TESTPOINTTHROUGHHOLE_TH_TP_5002_TP" is renamed to "TESTPOINTTHROUGHHOLE_TH_TP_5002". #114 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Na me "AM335X_4_BGA15X15-324-55M_ AM335X_ZCZ" is renamed to "AM335X_4_BGA15X15-324-55M_AM335". #115 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "VSSA_USB" is renamed to "VSSA_USB#N14" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package AM335X_4C , U1A: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg02: AM335X Section 1 of 3 (6.30, 4.10). #116 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "VSSA_USB" is renamed to "VSSA_USB#M14" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package AM335X_4C , U1A: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg02: AM335X Section 1 of 3 (6.30, 4.10). #117 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "TPS65910A3_4_U_48_RSL_TPS65910A3" is renamed to "TPS65910A3_4_U_48_RSL_TPS65910A". #118 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "TPS78633DCQ_SOT223_6PIN_TPS78633" is renamed to "TPS78633DCQ_SOT223_6PIN_TPS7863". #119 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to "GND#6" as visible power pin of same name already exists in Package TPS78633DCQ , U12: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg07: Platform_Power (15.30, 10.90). #120 WARNING(ORCAP-36042): Pin "GND" is renamed to "GND#3" as visible power pin of same name already exists i n Package TPS78633DCQ , U12: TMDSSK3358-1V2A, Pg07: Platform_Power (15.30, 10.90). #121 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "TPS71718_SOT23-5_P95_3X1P6X1P45_RT9013-12GB" is renamed to "TPS71718_SOT23-5_P95_3X1P6X1P45". #122 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "TPS71718_SOT23-5_P95_3X1P6X1P45_TLV70025DDC" is renamed to "TPS71718_SOT23-5_P95_3X1P6X1P_1". #123 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "AR8031-AL1A_QFN48_0_QFN48_AR8031_AL1A" is renamed to "AR8031-AL1A_QFN48_0_QFN48_AR803". #124 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "EP4CE10F17C8_TCC_11_256FBGA_EP4CE10F17C8_TCC" is renamed to "EP4CE10F17C8_TCC_11_256FBGA_EP4". #125 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "74LVC244A/SO_2_SOIC-20_74LVC244A/SO" is renamed to "74LVC244A/SO_2_SOIC-20_74LVC244". #126 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "MT41J128M16JT-125_BGA14X10-96_MT41J128M16JT-125:K" is renamed to "MT41J128M16JT-125_BGA14X10-96_M". #127 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "CRYSTAL24MHZ18PFSMD_0_XTAL4_3P2X2P5_SMD_24MHZ" is renamed to "CRYSTAL24MHZ18PFSMD_0_XTAL4_3P2". #128 WARNING(O RCAP-36006): Part Name "CRYSTAL_SMD32_2_MC-306_32.768KHZ MC-306" is renamed to "CRYSTAL_SMD32_2_MC-306_32.768KH". #129 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "CRYSTAL25MHZABM3_SM_OSC_ABM3_25MHZ" is renamed to "CRYSTAL25MHZABM3_SM_OSC_ABM3_25". #130 WARNING(ORCAP-36006): Part Name "CRYSTAL24MHZ18PFSMD_0_XTAL4_1P6X1P2_SMD_20MHZ" is renamed to "CRYSTAL24MHZ18PFSMD_0_XTAL4_1P6". INFO(ORCAP-36080): Scanning netlist files ... Loading... C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro/pstchip.dat Loading... C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro/pstchip.dat Loading... C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro/pstxprt.dat Loading... C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro/pstxnet.dat packaging the design view... Exiting... "C:\Cadence\SPB_17.2\tools\bin\pstswp.exe" -pst -d "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\TCC_0458-0000_REV2_SCH_14-12-02C.DSN" -n "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro" -c "C:\Cadence\SPB_17.2\tools/capture/allegro.cfg" -v 3 -l 31 -s "" -j "PCB Footprint" -hpath "HPathForCollision" -lite INFO(ORCAP-32005): *** Done *** ******************************************************************************** * * Updating Allegro PCB Editor Board * ******************************************************************************** INFO(ORCAP-32040): Updating Allegro PCB Editor Board Spawning... netrev.exe -y 1 -z -i "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro" "C:\Users\DARCY\Desktop\Orcad Training\training\TCC\pcb_0458-0000B.brd" "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro\TCC2019.brd" Reading File : C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstchip.dat (00:00:00.03) Reading File : C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstxprt.dat (00:00:00.03) Reading File : C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstxnet.dat (00:00:00.02) Starting to process component instances Finished component instance processing Starting to check device models Finished checking device models Starting to process nets Finished net processing Starting to process slot properties Finished slot property processing Starting to process component instance properties Finished component instance property processing Performing a partial design check before saving. Writing design to disk. 'TCC2019.brd' saved to disk. netrev run on Jan 29 16:13:17 2019 DESIGN NAME : 'TCC_0458-0000_REV2_SCH_14-12-02C' PACKAGING ON Mar 2 2016 00:37:24 No error detected No oversight detected 1 warnings detected cpu time 0:01:05 elapsed time 0:00:01 Exiting... netrev.exe -y 1 -z -i "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro" "C:\Users\DARCY\Desktop\Orcad Training\training\TCC\pcb_0458-0000B.brd" "C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro\TCC2019.brd" (---------------------------------------------------------------------) ( ) ( Allegro Netrev Import Logic ) ( ) ( Drawing : pcb_0458-0000B.brd ) ( Software Version : 17.2P019 ) ( Date/Time : Tue Jan 29 16:13:17 2019 ) ( ) (---------------------------------------------------------------------) ------ Directives ------------ Ripup etch: No Ripup delete first segment: No Ripup retain bondwire: No Ripup symbols: Always Missing symbol has error: No DRC update: Yes Schematic directory: 'C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro' Design Directory: '.' Old design name: 'C:/Users/DARCY/Desktop/Orcad Training/training/TCC/pcb_0458-0000B.brd' New design name: 'TCC2019.brd' CmdLine: netrev.exe -y 1 -z -i C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro C:\Users\DARCY\Desktop\Orcad Training\training\TCC\pcb_0458-0000B.brd C:\USERS\DARCY\DESKTOP\ORCAD TRAINING\TRAINING\TCC\allegro\TCC2019.brd ------ Preparing to read pst files ------ Starting to read C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstchip.dat Finished reading C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstchip.dat (00:00:00.03) Starting to read C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstxprt.dat Finished reading C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstxprt.dat (00:00:00.03) Starting to read C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstxnet.dat Finished reading C:/USERS/DARCY/DESKTOP/ORCAD TRAINING/TRAINING/TCC/allegro/pstxnet.dat (00:00:00.02) ------ Oversights/Warnings/Errors ------ WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. WARNING(SPMHNI-363): Signal model '33OHMRESISTOR1_16W5_0402_SM_735_33' not found; may effect xnets and electrical constraints. #1 WARNING(SPMHNI-192): Device/Symbol check warning detected. [help] WARNING(SPMHNI-194): Symbol '30PINCONNECTOR' used by RefDes J12 for device '30 PIN CONNECTOR_0_30PINCONNECT' not found in PSMPATH or must be "dbdoctor"ed. ------ Library Paths ------ MODULEPATH = . C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/local/pcb/modules PSMPATH = . symbols .. ../symbols C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/local/pcb/symbols C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/pcb/pcb_lib/symbols C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/pcb/allegrolib/symbols PADPATH = . symbols .. ../symbols C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/local/pcb/padstacks C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/pcb/pcb_lib/symbols C:/Cadence/SPB_17.2/share/pcb/allegrolib/symbols C:/Users/DARCY/Desktop/Orcad Training/training/Library/ ------ Summary Statistics ------ netrev run on Jan 29 16:13:17 2019 DESIGN NAME : 'TCC_0458-0000_REV2_SCH_14-12-02C' PACKAGING ON Mar 2 2016 00:37:24 COMPILE 'logic' CHECK_PIN_NAMES OFF CROSS_REFERENCE OFF FEEDBACK OFF INCREMENTAL OFF INTERFACE_TYPE PHYSICAL MAX_ERRORS 500 MERGE_MINIMUM 5 NET_NAME_CHARS '#%&()*+-./:=>?@[]^_`|' NET_NAME_LENGTH 24 OVERSIGHTS ON REPLACE_CHECK OFF SINGLE_NODE_NETS ON SPLIT_MINIMUM 0 SUPPRESS 20 WARNINGS ON No error detected No oversight detected 1 warnings detected cpu time 0:01:05 elapsed time 0:00:01 INFO(ORCAP-32005): *** Done ***

Hi Jorge, This won't work, unfortunately. The Hierarchy Editor is not a "de" (Design Editor") application. You can tell that because when the Hierarchy Editor is the current window, using deGetViewType(hiGetCurrentWindow()) returns "unknown". There's an application registered mostly to support the customisation in the schematic window when configured, but primarily that is done via a plugin nowadays. I filed an enhancement a number of years back to support a way of customising the UI (which I guess could be used to resize the window, I've not tried). Support for this was added in IC618 and ICADVM181. It's done via the SKILL function hedRegUICustomFunc which is documented in the Virtuoso Hierarchy Editor User Guide ( /doc/cdshiereditor/cdshiereditor.pdf) in Appendix B. A simpler solution would probably be just to do: envSetVal("hed.display" "width" 'int 1000) envSetVal("hed.display" "height" 'int 600) envSetVal("hed.display" "x" 'int 400) envSetVal("hed.display" "y" 'int 100) With whatever numbers you want (I just picked a few to fit my screen - adjust to suit your own needs). This will work in IC617 (and probably older versions too - I didn't check). Regards, Andrew.

Thanks a million, Andrew! As usual, your solution works like a charm!!! Best regards, Jorge.

The way they market it is confusing. Getting them to explain what you get and don't get is interesting. I can say the documentation is merged. Allegro-L is no more, but it was a cheaper Concept HDL license with layout back when I started in 2010 (16.3). Orcad Professional does not have Mechanical IDX, Design For Assembly DRCs (squishy circles), Concept Schematics isn't included and the CIS option really is an option. Almost forgot the amazing Flow Planner in Allegro is not included in Orcad. I have PA-3100 Allegro and I am wondering if there are new features to Orcad Professional that aren't destined for Allegro.

Yep. There is a feature matrix that explains the nuances between the license levels but I suspect the base level OrCAD tools will do what you need.

Hi all, Is there any script or function in the menu bar to check the last modification date/time of GDS content? (modification date/time of the last modified cell in GDS) Thank you very much Will

Check this Matrix out which gives detail as to what you get / don't get in each level:- www.parallel-systems.co.uk/matrix and just to correct you OrCAD Std and Pro get IDX import and export....

So these are just warnings and the netlist files are created, the warnings relate to the device name being renamed to match the device name limit you have set. There are also warnings about signal models not being found but unless you are doing SI analysis on the pcb this shouldn't be an issue. The actual issue you have to resolve is that the PCB Footprint called 30PINCONNECTOR is not found in your library paths. Make sure that the 30PINCONNECTOR .dra and 30PINCONNECTOR .psm are available in the psmpath location. If you need to configure this look at: orcad.co.uk/.../Defining_padpath_psmpath.pdf

Hi Will, There are some capability within QuickView (the k2_viewer program in the PVS stream), including an ASCII dump of GDS - see QuickView 015 ASCII Import/Export . However, this only appears to be available through the UI and none of the batch programs dump out the modification date from the BGNSTR record. Of course, you could write your own using C code (I've done similar things in the past, but never to dump out the modification date from each structure). So I don't think there's a Cadence utility or script to do such a thing. I did just do a google search for "python program to read GDSII" and here's one such library of functions that might help: https://pythonhosted.org/python-gdsii/ Regards, Andrew

Thanks so much for the response Steve. I'm going to try this out later today, and let you know how it went. -Darcy

Hi Andrew, Couldn't find a way to open a new thread, so decided to just reply to a most relevant post. Hope that my question finds you. I'm trying to make a bindkey that would cycle through a sequence of actions as following: First hit: AnnotationSlider->annDCOpPoint->checked=t Second hit: AnnotationSlider->annmodel->checked=t Third hit: AnnotationSlider->annparameter->checked=t Fourth hit: back to first hit... and round and round... I'm not experienced with SKILL, so can't come up with a way to implement it. Could you please point me in the right direction. Thanks.